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2/16/2023

Scientists are getting butchered by the decisions taken here in this house - Wybren van Haga MP BVNL

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Wybren van Haga is leader of the liberal conservative Dutch opposition party BVNL [red. ‘the interest of the Netherlands’]. He was the first Dutch MP to refer to Michaéla’s work in the Corona crisis, when he cited her 2020 paper ‘For the Greater Good? The Devastating Ripple Effects of the Covid-19 Crisis’. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.577740/full
Rico Brouwer of follow the science interviewed van Haga February 15th 2023 about the new paper; "Is Society caught up in a Death Spiral? Modelling Societal Demise and its Reversal" (with John P. A. Ioannidis and Matthias Luijks), in which prof. Schippers makes the argument that inadequate decision making is what keeps society on a downward trajectory. What role does science play in political decision making?
on bitchute: 
 
mentioned in this interview:
  • ‘For the Greater Good? The Devastating Ripple Effects of the Covid-19 Crisis’ https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.577740/full
  • written question to the minister of health on mouth mask feb 10 2023: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/kamervragen/detail?id=2023Z02343&did=2023D05441
  • Is Society caught up in a Death Spiral? Modelling Societal Demise and its Reversal​https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4352765
  • Michaéla Schippers in an interview recorded earlier about the Death Spiral paper followthescience.nl/interviews/is-society-caught-up-in-a-death-spiral-modelling-societal-demise-and-its-reversal  
  • BVNL (Belang van Nederland) https://bvnl.nl/ 

Wybren van Haga has his office in the building of Dutch parliament. In it is a guitar. Before the interview started, here's what happened (maybe van Haga will share the clip?) Follow him on https://twitter.com/WybrenvanHaga 
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2/14/2023

Is Society caught up in a Death Spiral? Modelling Societal Demise and its Reversal

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Individuals, groups and even whole societies sometimes enter a death spiral. A vicious cycle of self-reinforcing dysfunctional behavior that can even lead to societal collapse if the course of suboptimal action and decision making is not corrected.

In this conversation recorded earlier, Michaéla Schippers and Rico Brouwer discuss the new academic paper "Is Society caught up in a Death Spiral? Modelling Societal Demise and its Reversal" (Michaéla Schippers, John P. A. Ioannidis, Matthias Luijks), that is currently under review and available as preprint
at https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4352765 

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Schippers: "While the period before the Covid-19 crisis seems to be characterized by policy underreaction to complex social problems, the current times seem to be characterized by overreaction to a small set of problems. In this theory-building review we coin the term Death Spiral Effect to describe this type of overreaction and the resulting cascading effects in (health) policies. Our review, synthesizing research from multiple fields indicates several evidence-based solutions to reverse the decline, such as turn-around leadership and the strengthening of democracy. Ideally, public health agencies, governments, companies, all relevant stakeholders as well as individuals should collaborate toward the goals of a healthier and happier future for all.

referenced letters to the future: 
https://www.greatcitizensmovement.org/signing-the-declaration/ 

​referenced previous talk about the Death Spiral effect: 
https://followthescience.nl/psychology-in-practice/4-the-death-spiral​

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