<![CDATA[followthescience.nl - Interviews]]>Fri, 17 Mar 2023 19:22:01 +0100Weebly<![CDATA[Forbidden Event on Free Speech in Dutch Higher Education - Laurens Buijs]]>Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:01:02 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/forbidden-event-on-free-speech-in-dutch-higher-education-laurens-buijs
video report on Bitchute
On 3/3/23, the Great Citizens Institute co-organized a “forbidden” event in Amsterdam about free speech and free thought in higher education. In general, there has been grave concerns about the erosion of these freedoms in the last three years (e.g., https://potkaars.nl/blog/2022/10/14/michala-schippers-over-academische-vrijheid-en-societal-decline-waarschijnlijk-waargebeurd )
The filmed event arose from the consternation around Laurens Buijs, a gender studies scholar at the University of Amsterdam who got into a full confrontation with students and staff after critiquing the non-binary gender movement. He decided to use the whistleblower legislation of the university to formally object to the rise of woke and cancel culture at his university. Despite this, he is currently in a situation where he is fighting for his position.

​The free speech event was meant to show that his case does not stand by itself, but that we are confronting a fundamental challenge in higher education. Over 40 students, teachers, concerned citizens and others involved in higher education visited the event to discuss how the rising totalitarian zeitgeist is threatening freedom of speech and thought in colleges and universities. The event was supposed to take place at the UvA, but the central board decided to prohibit the meeting less than 24 hours in advance. Luckily, a community of free thinkers opened their space for us so that this unique “forbidden event” could take place.
on bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/video/DfgSbemN9rvj/
on rumble 
On March 10th Rico Brouwer and Laurens Buijs look back on the event and discuss the issues that were raised by some of the speakers.
<![CDATA[Scientists are getting butchered by the decisions taken here in this house - Wybren van Haga MP BVNL]]>Thu, 16 Feb 2023 18:45:11 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/scientists-are-getting-butchered-by-the-decisions-taken-here-in-this-house-wybren-van-haga-mp-bvnlWybren van Haga is leader of the liberal conservative Dutch opposition party BVNL [red. ‘the interest of the Netherlands’]. He was the first Dutch MP to refer to Michaéla’s work in the Corona crisis, when he cited her 2020 paper ‘For the Greater Good? The Devastating Ripple Effects of the Covid-19 Crisis’. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.577740/full
Rico Brouwer of follow the science interviewed van Haga February 15th 2023 about the new paper; "Is Society caught up in a Death Spiral? Modelling Societal Demise and its Reversal" (with John P. A. Ioannidis and Matthias Luijks), in which prof. Schippers makes the argument that inadequate decision making is what keeps society on a downward trajectory. What role does science play in political decision making?
on bitchute: 
mentioned in this interview:
Wybren van Haga has his office in the building of Dutch parliament. In it is a guitar. Before the interview started, here's what happened (maybe van Haga will share the clip?) Follow him on https://twitter.com/WybrenvanHaga 
<![CDATA[Is Society caught up in a Death Spiral? Modelling Societal Demise and its Reversal]]>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:12:09 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/is-society-caught-up-in-a-death-spiral-modelling-societal-demise-and-its-reversalIndividuals, groups and even whole societies sometimes enter a death spiral. A vicious cycle of self-reinforcing dysfunctional behavior that can even lead to societal collapse if the course of suboptimal action and decision making is not corrected.

In this conversation recorded earlier, Michaéla Schippers and Rico Brouwer discuss the new academic paper "Is Society caught up in a Death Spiral? Modelling Societal Demise and its Reversal" (Michaéla Schippers, John P. A. Ioannidis, Matthias Luijks), that is currently under review and available as preprint
at https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4352765 

subscribe and watch this interview on Rumble and on Bitchute

Schippers: "While the period before the Covid-19 crisis seems to be characterized by policy underreaction to complex social problems, the current times seem to be characterized by overreaction to a small set of problems. In this theory-building review we coin the term Death Spiral Effect to describe this type of overreaction and the resulting cascading effects in (health) policies. Our review, synthesizing research from multiple fields indicates several evidence-based solutions to reverse the decline, such as turn-around leadership and the strengthening of democracy. Ideally, public health agencies, governments, companies, all relevant stakeholders as well as individuals should collaborate toward the goals of a healthier and happier future for all.

referenced letters to the future: 

​referenced previous talk about the Death Spiral effect: 

<![CDATA[Woke culture threatens academic freedom - Laurens Buijs]]>Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:13:22 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/woke-culture-threatens-academic-freedom-laurens-buijsThreats, attacks, possible dismissal and cancelling happened when Laurens Buijs, social scientist and professor at the University of Amsterdam spoke out about his field of expertise and made a report of the cancel culture at the UvA. Buijs talks to Rico Brouwer of Follow the Science about how diversity policies have turned into a threat to Academic Freedom to the point where he's now called on Whistle-blower protection. In this 50 minute interview Laurens explains what is woke culture and the concept of non binary and talks about what happened to him after he published an opinion piece about it last week. 


<![CDATA[Michaéla Schippers - Societal Decline (Dutch spoken)]]>Sun, 16 Oct 2022 15:01:48 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/michaela-schippers-societal-decline-dutch-spokenMichaéla was te gast in de Waarschijnlijk Waargebeurd show van 15 oktober 2022, om vanuit haar expertise te vertellen over societal decline. Waarschijnlijk Waargebeurd zijn maandeljkse voor publiek opgenomen voorstellingen waarin dialoog, theater en muziek elkaar afwisselen. Onderdeel van het programma is een interview met Rico Brouwer. De bijdrage van Michaéla in interview hebben we hier met toestemming overgenomen
bron: https://waarschijnlijkwaargebeurd.nl/afleveringen/show-5-michaela-schippers-academische-vrijheid

<![CDATA[Jordan B. Peterson and Michaéla Schippers - Death Spiral; we're in an epidemic of narcissism and bad decision making]]>Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:28:23 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/jordan-b-peterson-and-michaela-schippers-death-spiral-were-in-an-epidemic-of-narcissism-and-bad-decision-makingJust like an army of ants in the animal kingdom, individuals, groups and even whole societies are sometimes caught up in a death spiral. A vicious cycle of self-reinforcing dysfunctional behavior. According to prof. Schippers, a death spiral is characterized by continuous flawed decision making where one bad decision leads to another, which can even lead to the collapse of an individual, group or society.

This conversation with Prof. Jordan B. Peterson was recorded backstage at RAI Amsterdam sept 25th 2022, just before his Beyond Order show. Prof. Peterson says that an important problem is wilful blindness, people keep themselves intentionally unaware of facts, i.e. they turn a blind eye. Another problem he points out is an epidemic of narcissism, or self-love.

As a solution he thinks people should become more involved in society. In order for people to find out what they can contribute to society, participating in self-authoring 
https://www.selfauthoring.com/future-authoring and Letters to the future https://www.greatcitizensmovement.org/how-to is a good start.
Also, reading and signing the Great Citizens Declaration https://www.greatcitizensmovement.org/signing-the-declaration/ might be a good first step on escaping the ant mill and creating a brighter future for ourselves and the world. 

Beyond Order, Jordan B. Peterson https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/beyond-order/

<![CDATA[In debat met Mattias Desmet: Massavorming en groepsdenken in de Corona crisis; wat kun je zelf doen?]]>Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:03:45 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/groepsdenken-en-de-rol-van-psychologie-tijdens-de-corona-crisis-wat-kun-je-zelf-doenThis entry in English would be titled "groupthink and the role of psychology during the Corona crisis: what can you do yourself?" It features an interview bij prof. dr. Michaéla Schippers with prof. dr. Mattias Desmet. They talk during a debate night held in Rotterdam, the Netherlands on July 9th 2022. The event is in Dutch, subsequently, so is this interview.
Tijdens de Nacht van de Nieuwe Wereld in Rotterdam op 9 juli 2022 een tweegesprek tussen hoogleraren Michaéla Schippers en Mattias Desmet over massavorming en hoe die te doorbreken; de rol van kleinschaligheid, dankbaarheid en positieve psychologie.

Wat kun je zelf doen (zoals besproken in de video):
<![CDATA[Mass formation and rising inequalities, a proposed way forward - Michaéla Schippers]]>Thu, 07 Jul 2022 11:24:05 GMThttp://followthescience.nl/interviews/life-crafting-as-a-way-to-find-purpose-in-life-michaela-schippersRico Brouwer talks to professor of behavior and performance management Michaéla Schippers about the psychological and sociological effects of the corona measures.

​Professor Schippers, speaking on a personal note, tells about the research she did regarding the ripple effects of the non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as lockdowns, curfews etc. that have had a profound effect on the economy and well-being of billions of people world-wide. Her most recent paper, with John Ioannidis, Professor of Medicine, Epidemiology and Population Health, as well as professor of statistics and of biomedical data science. Prof. Ioannidis is one of the most cited researchers in the world. A second co-author on this paper is Ari Joffe, clinical professor at the University of Alberta.
The paper discussed is: M.C., Ioannidis, J. & Joffe (2022). Aggressive Measures, Rising Inequalities and Mass Formation During the COVID-19 Crisis: An Overview and Proposed Way Forward.

Accepted for publication on July 25th. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6957343373212958720/ 

published paper: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2022.950965/abstract
(Draft under review. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4118910 )

​Rico and prof Schippers discuss how the measures relate to mass formation, loss of livelihood, rise in hunger and inequalities. They then discuss a better way forward, and what each of us can do to make the situation better for themselves and others. They discuss an intervention: Letters to the future” that each of us can write. The intervention is based on positive psychology. People are asked to think about the ideal world when there are no constraints and to think about what the world will look like if we do not change anything. In the second part of the intervention each person can think of ways to contribute to a better world, be a small or big. Here you can take part: Letters to the Future Challenge - Ikigai TV, https://ikigaitv.nl